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 M O D - (includes all types of modifying)

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Lets talk modding.

There really are all types. I think at this time we've all agreed that modifying has gone to a new level. I personally don't believe this will go on until the end of time. But incidentally, if it does, that could bring on a whole different type of entertainment.

Do we not all agree that we not only modify OURSELVES but we do modify others without the "power" of being a modifier.

There are certain words that cannot be said because only a select few will understand the intent. Lets say the word is "retarded" - that is politically incorrect and it DOES NOT go unnoticed on this board.

Buttttt and this really is important, lots of people watch sitcoms. I don't that much anymore as I'm more into drama but I look at some classics like Sex and the City or Friends. There was LOTS of sarcasm, name calling, making fun of each other, even hurtful things and the point is WE ALL LAUGHED!

How many of you politically correct went off on a tangent with the network or the writers of the show? Don't even answer because quite frankly NOBODY cares if you did. But those of you who DID laugh because it was funny but came on these boards behind a computer screen and started tsk tsking, pointing fingers, exercising a voice of articulation from a thesaurus I'm calling "fake" and/or "coward". There's NO WAY "you" are like that in real life. Its all a farce on your behalf.

People would call you on it. You'd never get along with family, extended family or people in your work place. This place is different and while it might seem I'm totally slamming it I most certainly am not. If everyone were what I was implying here, I wouldn't be here.

Do you all know what a plethora of info you all are? I think I saw someone write one time that you're better than google; like more trustworthy.

As you can see I'm off on a tangent again. At one time I want to slam people but in the same breath I want to praise.

The topic is modding and I think its really important for everyone to see, understand and watch what modding does. "Today" (as in the last couple of weeks) we've seen modding go the most ridiculous route.

Why I want to use this as an example, I don't know. I remember a poster named DaisyRae venturing into the miscellaneous section after being given a hard time in the appropriate wedding sections in which she was posting.

The "girls" reverted back to high school so DaisyRae goes into the miscellaneous section basically saying, but in different words what is being said here.

Wanna know what happened? PAGES of recipes for cream cheese. It was like the WBGB thread except it was f*cking cream cheese. I totally get why that goodbye thread went off but PAGES OF CREAMCHEESE??? I think we can all admit that there AREN'T that many good cream cheese recipes.

Can't find the thread but even when DaisyRae politely or rudely pointed out how they were so off topic the recipes got grosser - and they really weren't all that great of recipes. No mods there - nothing - nobody saying off topic.

But maybe nobody notified the mods?

Seriously, think about it.

(p.s. - didn't proof read, typos could be there, if sentence structure is gone, phone is ringing, kids, dogs, I don't really care anymore)

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 27 Aug 2010 9:21 PM
 29 Dec 2008
 Calgary
CateFace
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I agree -

wb modding has gone off the handle lately, I'm afraid to say anything really << this included!

I think the general sense of community has been destroyed, and its a shame because WB used to be really awesome

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 27 Aug 2010 9:26 PM
 21 Oct 2009
lastone
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I agree CateFace. I am starting to not post in case something is unknowingly forbidden.

Perhaps I will give myself a break. I took one before. It was kinda refreshing actually. Actually what was more refreshing was seeing how I was treated under a new user name when compared to my previous one. It has been an interesting learning experience to say the least.....oops sorry, this is off topic. No worries MH I doubt it will be here for long.

I put in your other post MH that I used to run/own a message board. I get the impression from the mods here that they are trying to create this eutopian board. It will not happen and I really hope that they realize the new rule of fist approach they are taking is creating more drama than if they had just left everything alone would have. ETA: I think if this editing thing is going to happen they need to start doing it where you reply, they approve it or not, and then post it. This way everything stay within in prescribed rules. I have seen forums do this way and although annoying and time consuming it does work and then you have the eutopian censorship they seem to be aiming for here.

Now I am off to think of a vacation spot for a while to rest and recuperate. I really hope when I come back WB is back to "normal".

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 27 Aug 2010 9:29 PM
 21 Apr 2007
 Ontario
MyGeek
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Mods were usually pretty laid back. Locked or deleted threads when they NEEDED TO BE, but they usually just popped it to say "Let.It.Go." wink

This whole editing threads is RIDICULOUS!

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 27 Aug 2010 9:32 PM
 8 Dec 2004
AshleyB
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Yes I've never been one to EVER complain about the Mods on here or even notify them of issues but I'll agree that it seems the last two weeks this place has been on lockdown and that tends to create more drama then if it was just left alone in some instances.

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 27 Aug 2010 9:41 PM
 8 Jun 2009
Siiera
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I never thought I'd see the day where editing people's posts became a routine part of a mod's day. So sad.

If something is outright offensive, then delete it or lock the thread, but editing people's words and thus the intent of the post is completely wrong. But that's just my opinion and I'm hoping I'm allowed to state it.

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 27 Aug 2010 9:46 PM
 11 Mar 2009
 the Centre of the Universe
siorhona
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While I haven't noticed any of the thread "modifications", there does seem to be a feeling of "they're watching me...." around here.

I get that sometimes things get out of hand, but are we not grown up enough to "mod" ourselves for the most part? I think the reaction to the OMFGness of "that" thread is a bit much. Everyone is on edge, everyone is worried that "someone" might get offended, that another explosion will occur...really, I think we just need to give it a couple weeks, let things settle, lay off the Big Brother tactics and put a little thought into what we type and things will get back to normal.

You know, I was thinking about cream cheese today...poppyseed bagels and smear as a nummy snack...did you know that in the UK paps are called smears? How's that for gross and tangential?

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 27 Aug 2010 9:57 PM
 2 May 2002
 Hamilton, Ontario
Just_Laura
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I just have to say.....

There were complaints that we as mods weren't being visible enough... and I know I for one am on here daily but not always that active a poster.... and now this.... apparently we/they are being too visible now.

Really it makes me laugh! I think there has also been a little more drama happening around here recently and maybe that has caused the increase in moderation... but I don't think anyone wants to make this place over modified or what ever you want to call it. I think we (or at least I) kinda hope it all calms down. I know I personally have a two year old, a husband, two dogs, 28 chickens and a small acreage to attend to on top of looking for a job.... so my days don't need any extra B.S. around here to have to come home to at the end of the day. I like it here... and I like chatting here... I don't like having all the extra drama that has come about in the past few weeks!

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 27 Aug 2010 10:07 PM
 21 Mar 2006
 Nova Scotia
Chixor
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Laura and Tan, I am almost positive the complaints WBers are having about the "modding" of late has not been your doing. And you are right, perhaps it appears that it's a "your d@mned if you do, d@mned if you don't" situation. But the modding today has been extreme and this is what I (and perhaps others?) am taking issue with.

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 27 Aug 2010 10:09 PM
 9 Jul 2005
 Around, SK
LadyAurora
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Nazis? Really? You think that moderation on a message board equates? Maybe you should "moderate" your post because I find it offensive that you would compare the two. And not just because I'm a moderator. I'd find it offensive anyway. And it's already been pointed out that a good number of people also find it offensive.

Problem here is this, we can't do anything right by the membership. Either we are being oppressive and heavy handed or we aren't there when you need / want us. We are too sensitive or not sensitive enough. There is no winning here.

A large portion of the posts modified were done so as a result of a direct notify. Modifying of posts isn't a new thing here. And if we removed posts (or placed the word deleted in them) you'd all be up in arms too. See, no win.

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 27 Aug 2010 10:11 PM
 2 May 2002
 Hamilton, Ontario
Just_Laura
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I wasn't around to do the editting today but I will let you know my inbox was FULL of notify the moderator requests today.... so the posts that were editted were reported by other posters... it wasn't just the mods that were around being "bored" or something.

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 27 Aug 2010 10:11 PM
 19 Jan 2005
 Ottawa
Baileys
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You know.... if threads are going to start being modified and 'fixed' when they don't stay on topic... maybe the mods can start with the "tee hee, this is gonna be good, I will sip wine and watch the drama, oooh, wine, I love wine, here's some wine! I will send you some wine! And chocolate! I love chocolate! MMmmm nothing better than chocolate! Ooh, I know what's better than chocolate! (Insert cheesy naked fireman photo)" topic-derailing posts...


.... just a thought. laugh

And yes, coupled with the other drama that went down a few weeks ago, the thread-editing is going to get things around here very bad, very fast. [i][/i]

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 27 Aug 2010 10:12 PM
 24 Jun 2006
 The middle of the Pacific
Whizz
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Moosehead: sometimes I find you incredibly abrasive. Other times I find you hilarious. But mostly I have no idea what you are saying.

Carry on. I'll try reading again fairly early tomorrow right after some coffee. Maybe it'll make more sense.

and FTR, I get the main basis of the post but there was an awful lot of tangental babble there, but I'm sure you're aware of it wink

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 27 Aug 2010 10:27 PM
 9 Jul 2005
 Around, SK
LadyAurora
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I neither locked nor edited the dog thread.

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 27 Aug 2010 10:33 PM
 9 Jul 2005
 Around, SK
LadyAurora
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Why does any volunteer volunteer? To help.

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 27 Aug 2010 10:33 PM
 11 Jun 2008
onthefence
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Um...

Am I the only one who thought that MooseHead was a reincarnation of DaisyRae, post banning? *confused*

Anyway, I do think that over moderation is bad for the board. Step in and give a warning, lock a thread if you must... delete only things that are offensive and then say why - eg. Deleted for abusive language.

Really, what's wrong with a heated discussion, now and then? Nobody wants to feel like Big Brother is hanging over them all the time.

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 27 Aug 2010 10:38 PM
 21 Oct 2009
lastone
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Okay I am going to say this and then leave this thread:

(1) Admin does not get paid enough to deal with the crap that comes with running a message board. He has now also most likely suffering from the trauma of being a male and running a wedding message board that he will most likely never get married. We have probably made him damaged goods for life.

(2) The moderator ladies definitely do not get paid enough. They are the self sacrificing martyrs that do this for free hoping to serve and help make "the community" better. It is a thankless job that involves people trying to be your friend JUST BECAUSE you are a mod. It is a harsh reality of life. I also talked to a mod once who felt that they lost "friends" when they became a mod because they had someone crossed over to the "dark side" quite literally.

I do not envy your jobs. You will never see me running to answer a mod call out. But I would really hope that people (of any part of this forum) are open to constructive criticism.

I know before the 2 week old events happened that the mods were always around in the background but we rarely saw you post as "one of the group". But I know you were that as you (the collective you) have always answered my inquiries quickly and a amazingly fast. That is commendable.

But since two weeks ago, the fist of god has come down. Perhaps it is simply coincidence. Perhaps it was a behind the scenes group admin/mod decision that enough is enough. I saw Admin's post in T&T following the first part of the blow up (it is since gone ladies do not go look for it) and it seemed that Admin had finally been pushed too far. Perhaps this is still the residual fall out from that.

In the end only your group really knows. But I would hope that you would be able to look at criticism and take away from it some advice, some chuckles, and some things to print off for our dartboard when you need to release some stress.

Hopefully that made some sense. I know it is not sounding anything like it did when it was a thought in my head tongueold

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 27 Aug 2010 10:41 PM
 22 May 2006
 Calgary
Fabulosity
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Meh. I think that the mods are just skittish about the last couple of weeks. Folks around here have gone kinda nutso - everything gets turned into an explosion, and people are sort of trolling for trouble.

Give it a few weeks or so of no dramarama and I have a feeling they'll lighten up. And the community needs to be a little less sensitive too - mods are trying to walk the balance between posts & notifies. It sounds like the notifies are on the rise too as everyone is PMSing.

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 27 Aug 2010 11:07 PM
 21 Jul 2004
shevy1978
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Nothing is wrong with a heated discussion I mean who doesn't like a good, fair, clean debate? But that's just it as long as it stays clean and fair. Some of the recent posts have really been mean.

I'm guilty of editing posts I'll admit it. But I honestly felt that users would appreciate that more than the thread being deleted because I know that people get upset when things are deleted or locked.

The other mods have explained it really well we don't sit on here looking for things to moderate. We respond when things are brought to our attention.

I don't know, I feel like whatever we do, we can't win. And I'm not going to lie, I'm taking this thread a little personally.

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 27 Aug 2010 11:10 PM
 11 Mar 2009
 the Centre of the Universe
siorhona
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Why are we blaming this 100% on the mods?

Originally Posted By: siorhona
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 27 Aug 2010 11:22 PM
 2 May 2002
 Hamilton, Ontario
Just_Laura
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Anyhow I have had enough feeling like I have to defend the mods for one night! I am going to bed!

Again I would love if we could all follow the rules and it went back to notifications of Spam and Vendors!!!

On a side note I also wanted to say that I am all for a good debate! I wish I could participate in some once in a while without being chastised for taking sides! I did that once several years back and was personally attacked so I stay out of them now (except threads like this) So I see what LadyA is saying!!

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 27 Aug 2010 11:27 PM
 13 Jan 2005
little_iris
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I have a legitimate question for the mods: when you are notified by a WBer who is angry/sad/frustrated with a post, do you decide subjectively whether to edit, delete or lock it? Do you discuss amongst other mods? Do you get approval from Admin? Is there a time constraint? I'm just curious because it seems like a lot of things are edited, deleted or locked too quickly.

Now, if it was truly offensive (tons of explitives, directly insulting a person's real-life character or personal life, etc.) I would completely understand. But when it's just for disagreeing, well, I think that takes away the beauty of this whole board. It is a wonderful mix of men and women with a variety of backgrounds. The collective contribution of advice, stories and suggestions is why I, and I'm sure others, return every day. But if the mods are clamping down so hard that no one will get real advice or opinions anymore, then why would we want to come back?

Believe me, I understand why there is censorship on this board. I've worked with publication forums before where lawsuits were considered. I completely believe Weddingbells has every right to protect its company and product. But, I think they could potentially be doing damage to their company if they obliterate all opposing voices in this forum. Then some WBers will leave and complain. Or, in some instances, return with an alias and wreak havoc. Either way, it's not good.

I love this board and hope it returns to "normal" soon too.

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 27 Aug 2010 11:28 PM
 9 Jul 2005
 Around, SK
LadyAurora
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MH, if you had said dictatorship I wouldn't have made the same post. Nazi has a whole other connotation.

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 27 Aug 2010 11:29 PM
 21 Jul 2004
shevy1978
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little_iris it's a combination of all of the above. Sometimes it's collective, with admin involved, or sometimes we just make a judgement call. Totally depends.

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 27 Aug 2010 11:30 PM
 21 Mar 2006
 Nova Scotia
Chixor
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The nazi comment was harsh, MH.

And sorry, but it looks like I got your Misty thread deleted frown

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 30 Apr 2012
 buzzle.ca
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 27 Aug 2010 11:32 PM
 2 May 2002
 Hamilton, Ontario
Just_Laura
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I am going to bed... but just going to answer Iris's question.

Usually if it is spam/vendor posting it is deleted by a mod right away.

For conflict an email usually goes out asking what others think, but sometimes mods just deal with it on their own.

There is also a private forum on here since the new system was introduced that issues can be discussed in but generally it is dealt with by whomever is on at the time of complaint. Some mods are on more on the day... I personally am usually around at night after my munchkin is in bed.

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 27 Aug 2010 11:35 PM
 2 May 2002
 Hamilton, Ontario
Just_Laura
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LOL too tired... I am seeing mistakes now in my quoted posts! I am going to bed ladies. Try not to have too much of a hate on when there isn't anyone online to defend us tongueold

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 27 Aug 2010 11:36 PM
 21 Mar 2006
 Nova Scotia
Chixor
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Nobody hates you! Some just disagree with you (right now)

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 27 Aug 2010 11:56 PM
 13 Jan 2005
little_iris
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Thanks for answering so quickly shevy and Laura! It's interesting to know. I was thinking it was purely subjective but hoping it was collaborative. When it comes to editing a post due to explitives, I'm all for mods adjusting it right away (unless software does that for you??), but I'm personally all for collective agreement when it comes to deleting or blocking a thread. I am also all for warnings, so users are aware the post will be deleted or blocked so users have the power, but after things have gotten out of hand (ie. "people have been very hurt by certain comments")... not before (ie. "be careful what you say or we'll delete this thread"). Of course most of us don't want things to get out of hand, but sometimes these things have to run its course. Debates are healthy if they are done in a respectful manner.

Also, I know mods want to eliminate certain posts from our collective memory, but urging us to do that will only fuel more discussion. It's certainly clear in this case that trying to clamp down on drama will just fuel more (ie. all the crazy drama today!). I think time is truly the best medicine when it comes to things like that.

But thank you mods for all that you do! It is a thankless job and I know you all mean well. Here's hoping for everyone that the drama subsides over the weekend. Everyone, go out and enjoy your weekend!

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 28 Aug 2010 11:28 AM
 31 Jul 2006
 Around the bender!
ms_taken
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I have a list of annoyances, but I'm honestly afraid to post what they are, as I'm pretty sure they dissapear faster than you can shake a tail feather!

And THAT is what is bothering me the most!

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 28 Aug 2010 12:10 PM
 25 Oct 2007
 Alberta
samoreo
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So I have no idea what's going on here, but I read this thread, and then went to google a question about something totally unrelated.

The question led me to a discussion in some forum, and at the bottom the the replies was this:

IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO POST, ALL POSTS WILL BE PLACED INTO A MODERATION QUEUE. It may take a couple hours or even up to a day until your post is approved and appears to the public.

Now, THAT is insane moderation.

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 28 Aug 2010 12:56 PM
 14 Aug 2010
--Shelly--
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I feel ill just reading all this nonsense! Do people have anything better to do?

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 28 Aug 2010 2:48 PM
 9 Jul 2005
 Around, SK
LadyAurora
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Joelene, I flat out asked you to Notify us of it. If you aren't going to do that, don't complain when we don't do anything about a post when we don't know where it is.

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 28 Aug 2010 3:31 PM
 9 Jul 2005
 Around, SK
LadyAurora
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You can let people know your experience Joelene, but bringing it up as a defence about how the forum isn't properly moderated, it is a complaint. You can't have it both ways. You can't complain that we don't do our jobs when you aren't willing to direct us to the thread you told to me about (with no location, not even a specific forum for me to check... and are using as your prime example) on one hand and then use it to say to others how we are incompetent and / or two-faced for giving you a warning for violating the rules when we WERE directed to your post.

Ms_matched, how bad should we let it get before stepping in to do the job that we were asked to do? How do you tell people to simmer down if you aren't allowed to tell them to simmer down for being told you are over-moderating? Do you see the no-win position we are in?

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 28 Aug 2010 3:55 PM
 17 Aug 2010
VerucaSalt
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People should mind their beezwax.

Is this really how you want to spend your day? Don't you have a husband, or kids, or a pet, or SOMETHING that's actually important to tend to? How long have your been sitting here?

The fact that people devote so much time to tattling on strangers makes me squeal with laughter. So so sad.

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 28 Aug 2010 4:01 PM
 31 Aug 2009
MrsMcW
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ohhhhh irony...

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 28 Aug 2010 4:01 PM
 31 Aug 2009
MrsMcW
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sorry my post was not towards you DJ, it is towards VS's posts.

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 28 Aug 2010 4:01 PM
 13 Aug 2002
 Toronto
FriendsFirst
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You're right VS... it is obvious where the problems lie. The problems lie with everyone who refuses to acknowledge that neither side will win these arguments and won't move on.

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 28 Aug 2010 4:31 PM
 8 Jun 2009
Siiera
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For the life of me I'll never understand the hit moderataor button. Never have, never will. I've never used it and for me to even considerate it, the post would have to an extreme and vulgur attack on someone IRL.

Jolene_Mills example just floored me. Seriously, people actually hit modify button over that? Wow. Get a life people, really.

Mods: I appreciate all the work you do and I can appreciate that the new mods were under a lot of stress starting at the same time as the recent drama. FriendsFirst brought up some valid points. I just didn't like the editing of posts (still don't) but unbeknownst (sp?) to me it seems like this is something that has been going on for awhile so I guess my perception of it being over the top was actually common practice now?

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 28 Aug 2010 4:44 PM
 13 Aug 2002
 Toronto
FriendsFirst
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Madre... I wouldn't exactly call it "common", but this (meaning the past couple of days/weeks) is not the first time, and likely won't be the last. Sometimes it's seen as more 'acceptable' by the masses... like if someone posted an address, and it was quoted by someone else... if the original poster went back and thought better of posting personal info (the address) and changed their post to remove it, it's not unheard of for a mod to alter any posts quoting the original post to use the updated wording and remove the personal info (the address). Just as an example.

VS... I know it's hard to drop, but someone has to be the first to move on.

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 28 Aug 2010 4:45 PM
 8 Aug 2008
MooseHead
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Wow Jolene just wow. What else can anyone say to that? Can't say what should be said so you'll have to settle for a "wow Jolene, just wow".

LadyA - I'm not sure I'm understanding or agreeing with your explanation. Unless I'm reading you wrong, I'm getting the impression that when there's a complaint (notify moderator) that you are obligated to act upon it.

So I'd like to know if several people started to play a little game with you and/or all the moderators, would you react/delete/edit/modify every single one of those irrational complaints?

I think this is what is really irking some people here. Mods, at least admit there are just some people on this board that really have nothing better to do. Why the hell would anyone care THAT much about Jolene and her friend getting a raise?

When Jolene brought up pirating movies or music or whatever she IS right. Not that I think a notify moderator is deserving of that either, just that she's right.

People have absolutely no problem finding villains, calling other people down whether deserving or not, exclaiming why they are poison to the boards yet these tattle tales really are making it an unpleasant atmosphere as well.

People have called me mean too and I know for a fact I'm not and there are other people that know that to be fact but these type of people DESERVE to be bullied, made sport of, egged on, teased or called out. Sorry, they deserve it. Of course its just my opinion, but that kind of person is just an undesirable personality to have around.

If that "type" of personality were sitting at my or any of your dinner table and were acting like that I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be invited back.

So, the most important question here is Mods - will you edit, delete, lock, moderate just ANY complaint or does it have to be "worth it to you?".

What if I or someone else or a few people strongly feels an urge to notify moderator and get no action? What does that mean? Obviously "you" are deciding whats important and *ducking head* why are some people more important than others?

Sorry if this doesn't make sense, but honestly, this whole situation doesn't either.

Edit: didn't see Madre's post. Its better than mine - thats what I'm trying to say too but I have questions.

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 28 Aug 2010 5:05 PM
 13 Aug 2002
 Toronto
FriendsFirst
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MH... in general, if we get a notification, we are obliged to investigate it. How it gets dealt with depends on what that investigation yields and the judgement of the 'first responder'. Sometimes it's very clear that a report is just sour grapes or that a report is an obvious violation of the rules of conduct. Sometimes it's not so cut and dried and there's discussion amongst the admin team (Admin & the mods). Now, if we get multiple notifications of the same thread and it's not clearly a case of sour grapes or the like, then chances are considerably higher that posts will be removed or edited, or the thread will be locked or deleted because the sheer volume of reports makes it higher profile and higher priority.

Does that help? 'cuz I'm not sure any more who's asking what wink

As for the original source of conflict over two weeks ago that led to suspensions and departures... please don't keep dragging it up. There were hurts on all sides. Dragging it up over and over, regardless of which 'side' is doing it helps no-one and just keeps the drama alive. Please stop.

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 28 Aug 2010 5:19 PM
 13 Aug 2002
 Toronto
FriendsFirst
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Ladies! Final warning!

Seriously, take it off the boards, or be the one to recognize that dragging it up again and again just to get your say (or your next say, or the last say, or whatever is causing you to drag it up again) is not cool, helpful, or amusing and move on.

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 28 Aug 2010 5:24 PM
 12 May 2008
 Wisconsin, USA
ruby_wi
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Friendsfirst, totally not trying to give you a bad day.

Maybe I will just go create a new username and run rampant.

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 28 Aug 2010 5:26 PM
 8 Jun 2009
Siiera
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Ruby, I didn't assume but it was pretty obvious given the topic of converation. You know it and everyone else knows it.

I don't agree with posting ANY PM's period. They are private messages for a reason.

But I also don't agree with the spin that is going on to make that offence worse than what was actually said or not said or whatever...

I would think that those who were involved and accused of saying those nasty things would just back away from it all. Trying to villify the messenger isn't working because the message is a million times worse.

It really does suck that LJB and ThisGirl were hurt in all of this mess. I wish they didn't have to get dragged into it.

BUT, I'm not going to sit in judgement over the players actions because I'm not the one who got hurt. It truly is up to LJB and ThisGirl to decide what if anything they feel about what went down.

I'm just not a fan of the pointing fingers to deflect the blame. It is a common manipulation tactic and it isn't flying.

What I'd be an even bigger fan of, is if it was just dropped. Let those involved sort it out amongst themselves.

I can say one thing, if there is any chance that ThisGirl would come back, she probably wouldn't with all of this going down.

So lets all get off our collective horses where we are all offended on behalf of others and move on with our lives. If LJB wants to speak her mind, she will. ThisGirl already has.

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 28 Aug 2010 5:27 PM
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Oops sorry FriendsFirst, didn't see that post.

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 28 Aug 2010 6:04 PM
 8 Jun 2009
Siiera
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Sorry mods, but I just have to say...

It seems like yesterday wasn't really VS that was fueling the flames of negativity, especially with threads that were started to figure out if VS was Misty and how many other usernames she may have had.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking in the dog thread, it took a turn when someone accused VS of being Misty. Or maybe it was the thread about that torture case? Either way, it doesn't matter.

And then in this thread and the one where MH asked who deleted her thread, there was an attempt to villify Misty to deflect blame away from those who supposedly said nasty stuff about LJB and This Girl.

Now here is an original thought wink...maybe just maybe if people would stop trying to start stuff with VS, then this negativity would actually go away.

I don't think anyone is doing their friends a favour when they keep bringing up the drama that went down a few weeks ago. I know if I'd been involved the last thing I'd want if for my friends to keep bringing it up.

We all get it, people are outraged that Misty, if she really is still posting is here. But since you can't do anything about it, then just accept it and move on. Or ignore her.

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 28 Aug 2010 6:48 PM
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 Around the bender!
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Not worth it, must walk away!

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 28 Aug 2010 7:06 PM
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Everyone keeps asking over and over and over and over why Misty or ANY username they interpret to be Misty is allowed back.

Once and for all!!! Misty, and whatever evil person you think she is is quite clever. I don't know anything about this but she does not have to contact her internet provider to keep changing her IP address. They simply wouldn't do it. At least I don't think so anyway.

ITS THE FREAKING INTERNET PEOPLE!!!! Changing an IP address is small change for ANY person who is just a tad more computer savey than the normal person. Again I'm guessing but if she wanted to she could change it hourly or even be using a proxy server (that I'm not aware of how that'd work) where her IP address could be jumping from Canada to Bangkok to Indiana to Germany to Brazil and so on.

So really, quit wasting your energy.

I also tried saying it in the thread that was deleted. People LOVE her! They love what she brings to the boards; it gets their adrenaline racing, its exciting she's crack for many members here.

You know what they say about gambling addicts? The "thrill" is NOT in winning; the thrill is actually LOSING. Sounds contrary and negative but Misty is an enigma and people actually NEED her here.

I myself have even gone as far as to say to people who've trashed me that they should thank me. I've provided something for them; people like to be a notch "above" or so they think. I can't claim to come close to Misty but I can say both her and I have at some point provided a "service" or a gift. Say thank you.

Sorry mods; I don't think I've broken any rules. I may have said some things that SOME people don't like but I have not in any way shape or form been even impolite. So while some may not agree with my opinion its only just an opinion.

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 28 Aug 2010 8:13 PM
 21 Oct 2009
lastone
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MH the more you talk the more I am starting to wonder if Misty is an alterego of yours wink For someone who knows NOTHING about changing internet IP addies etc you sure know a lot lol

Oh and back in the old days you could change your IP address with a few backdoor function keys on your computer. Apparently the newer versions of Windows no longer allow this or make it much more difficult, but if she is running an older version it is actually very simple to change your IP address.

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 31 Oct 2012 11:59 PM
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