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 Spin(kinda): What political party do you support?

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Simple question, who do you support? I am only listing the big four to keep it simple, any other parties fall under other.

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 25 Mar 2011 3:31 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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Wow, didn't even give Green as its own option, eh?

You may not have meant anything by it but I have to admit that when people lump them in with the Marxist-Leninists (as in "Other"), I think the pollster is out of touch.

Greens get to participate in the debates because they get over 5% (I think 8%?) of the popular vote. I don't consider that just another Other, although I know some people associated with the other parties that still hate that they're around splitting the vote for the Conservatives (because they're fiscally conservative) and the NDP (because they're generally socially progressive).

And I don't even like the Green Party much, just to be clear. I just happen to think that they are a legit party and that we have five top parties in Canada, not just four.

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 25 Mar 2011 3:39 PM
 14 Jul 2010
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I think green should have had an option, but is this at a Federal Level or a Provincial level? Because I don't support the same party at both levels.

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 25 Mar 2011 3:51 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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I think you were really smart to start a poll, lln. I just wish Green was an option (even though I wouldn't be clicking on it), and it triggered a bit of a rant because I've seen so many polls do it (CBC.ca, CTV.ca, the Globe and Mail, NewsTalkRadio, etc., etc.).

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 25 Mar 2011 3:55 PM
 19 Sep 2005
Ms_Married
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Other - I vote against the Conservatives. If I voted solely based on party though, it would be NDP.

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 25 Mar 2011 3:57 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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By excluding them from the polls and coverage (obviously not just here), they will never be able to get the representation, despite the popular vote.

Thank democracy that we at least have more than two parties, eh?

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 25 Mar 2011 3:59 PM
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I'm just saying that there is a case for the "big four". But of course, its sort of a self-perpetuating thing.

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 25 Mar 2011 4:33 PM
 31 Jul 2006
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I'm still trying to figure out how the hell there's a provincial party, that only represents one province, in the Federal Election...

MAKES NO EFFING SENSE! I'm sorry, but I don't get it!


AND I know a lot of people that would actually vote Green, if they weren't opposed to stem cell research! A couple of people find them a little on the religious side!

Me, I can relate to all parties on a certain level, and I like and hate all the parties for different reasons, but almost equally!

SO I don't have a clue what I'll be doing!

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 25 Mar 2011 5:24 PM
 2 Jan 2009
 Nunavut
MillyHa
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I'm with Ms_Roc. I'm different provincially than I am federally. Here in Nunavut there are no official parties. Everyone runs as an independent. Now, they do have political ties (as we see when the federal health minister comes from Nunavut meaning she's obviously 'in' with the Conservatives) but they show no official colour affiliation when running.

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 25 Mar 2011 5:25 PM
 21 Jul 2006
Rain_City_Girl
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I will probably gets flamed for this but I vote Green as IMO they are the least of all evils. It hurts my heart / head that there's ANOTHER election costing us millions & millions just so we can all vote the same way we all did the last time...

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 25 Mar 2011 5:25 PM
 8 Apr 2009
 Ontario
Gir
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I meant to add that I didn't vote in the poll. I would vote "other" as it depends (see above post), but "other" to me really means one of the more fringe parties so I didn't want to boost that number.

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 25 Mar 2011 6:13 PM
 7 Nov 2007
 Winnipeg, Manitoba
his.fallen.angel
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I am a card carrying member of the NDP but my new riding is going to be a big Conservative/Liberal battleground so I will vote Liberal in the hopes of taking it away from the Cons.

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 25 Mar 2011 6:20 PM
 10 Dec 2009
zinnia
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Yep, this time, I'll vote whatever will take the seat away from the conservatives in my area. Unfortunately.

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 25 Mar 2011 6:28 PM
 23 Jul 2009
 Nova Scotia
5_Dimples
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It depends. I think at different times our country needs different things...and depending on which party is the best for the country at the time, as well as who the MP is in my area and the candidates I meet through the election process....well it all plays into my decision.

I consider myself Liberal but I haven't liked a Liberal leader since Chretien

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 25 Mar 2011 6:55 PM
 8 Jun 2009
Siiera
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I'm not sure who I'll vote for this election but I need to start informing myself because I don't get any Canadian media coverage. I'm going to vote by mail and I'm assuming it will be the same riding in Toronto I voted for last election.

In the past, I'd vote NDP and sometimes Liberal if it meant taking away a vote from the Conservatives. But now I'm not really a fan of Layton anymore and I haven't liked the Liberals since Chretien. I don't think they have any leadership and they aren't free of corruption. But then again which party is pure? I'm actually going to read the Green platform this time.

I want to vote with my ideals/views but at the same time I want my vote to count and I want to avoid a Conservative majority so having said that I'll probably end up voting Liberal. Sigh. I really wish there was someone or some party to get excited about.

I can only see two outcomes from this election, either another minority government that gets nothing done and leads to more elections and waste of money or a Conservative majority which would not be in Canada's best interests.

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 25 Mar 2011 7:02 PM
 3 Dec 2006
orangepekoe
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Historically I've voted against the Conservatives, but since our riding now has been overwhelmingly Conservative since about 1867 (or something...), I usually vote Green. I like their policies, especially those related to public health, and I think their prominence in the popular vote needs to be better recognized (I also voted for proportional representation, but alas...).

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 25 Mar 2011 7:13 PM
 21 Jul 2006
Rain_City_Girl
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Two different entities that need to play nice together is the best thing for your community IMO.

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 25 Mar 2011 7:15 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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Heh, just looked at the electoral results on Wiki and the current MP's website for my new (in just over a week) riding.

Not a fan of the MP from the look of his statements but I suspect my vote for another candidate (assuming they say anything I like) will be a "waste". The current MP spent $53,800 on the last election and got 73% of the vote. The next highest percentage candidate was the NDP at 11% spending a mere $1,774. If nothing else, the cheap person in me likes the low, low cost of the NDP campaign, such as it is. Then again, the Green candidate got 9.5% and apparently spent nothing.

I always vote if I can but when re-reading my post, I am now curious: do you vote even when it likely "won't count"? Maybe that should be a poll so people don't get lectured ...

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 25 Mar 2011 7:30 PM
 8 Jun 2003
Rangergal88
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I am voting Conservative. My vote will be useless though. I have better odds of winning the lotto than the Conservatives do in winning 1 seat in my city (not suburbs).

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 25 Mar 2011 9:55 PM
 31 Jul 2010
omaki
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ABC

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 25 Mar 2011 10:05 PM
 26 Aug 2005
 Toronto, ON
honeybee
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I know we've done this chart before but I thought others might be interested in seeing where the political parties land.



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 25 Mar 2011 11:05 PM
 30 Oct 2006
ClareBear
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Conservative.

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 26 Mar 2011 9:52 AM
 15 Jun 2006
 Sudbury, Ontario
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Looks like WB is pretty representative of the "splitting of the left" that is happening in Canada.

i.e., the majority of Canadians identify more with "left wing" policies/ideas/values. You can see that the Conservative vote would actually be a minority when you compare to votes for Libs/NDP/Green etc.

(And I DON'T say this in support of a coalition or anything...love how much the Conservatives are plugging that line...)

I will vote Liberal this election. My coworker is running (our riding is historically Red but last election the seat went to the NDP candidate) I am behind her 100% and am actually helping a bit with her campaign.

That said, I'm not sure I'm 100% behind the current Liberal leader, but I don't believe the leader of a party, even though they would become PM, is fully representative of the government. I view it more as a "team" (at least that's what it SHOULD be...cough cough "Harper" government)

Regardless, I'm glad an election has been called as I have very significant concerns about the current government and hope to see change.

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 26 Mar 2011 10:13 AM
 11 Apr 2005
Sunshinemom
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Conservative

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 26 Mar 2011 11:08 AM
 1 Feb 2006
lln
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So I have a question, what happens if we vote in a Conservative minority again?

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 26 Mar 2011 12:11 PM
 31 Aug 2008
 Ontario, Canada
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Off-topic question for those in the know:

Will Justin Trudeau ever run for leadership in the Liberal party?

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 26 Mar 2011 12:19 PM
 15 Jun 2006
 Sudbury, Ontario
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summerlove: I'm not really "in the know" at all, but it is my opinion that he's being groomed for it, yes. But he has a long way to go before he gains enough experience (and a reputation in his own right, as opposed to just by association) before that happens, I think.

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 26 Mar 2011 12:45 PM
 23 Apr 2008
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Is anyone else annoyed with the whole thing. It feels and comes across to me like all the parties have been doing so much infighting, coilition joining, and stomping of feet. It has been a constant for the entire Harper govenment. I am soo tired of no forward movement for Canada, and I blame all parties conservatives included.

Am I completely misguided in thinking maybe instead of all this crap that has been going on, the Liberals would have been better off spending their time building a stronger party, finding a stronger more liked leader, coming up with a platform that makes the people go "hells yes... that is the future I want for Canada".

Instead alot of what I am seeing is... ABC. Which doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies for an forward moment in the next four years either.

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 26 Mar 2011 2:59 PM
 26 Feb 2009
 Ottawa, ON
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Just an observation as I read this conversation... Again from a point of view that I feel makes me non-partisan because I wouldn't vote for ANY of these parties...

But I would hate to be a Conservative in this discussion thread. You make it sounds like being a conservative means you are a bible toting/thumping evangelical Christian/Mormon, anti-abortionist, bossy and closed minded (read UrbanBaby's post on her "explanation" of the graph) individual, and you have the plague ("shoot me! I live in a conservative ridding!").

I wonder why no Conservatives speak up here. crazy If I was one, I wouldn't participate either. In fact, reading this makes me not want to discuss altogether. How about talking about the party policies, their actions (good or bad), what makes them valid choices, platforms? Stop talking about wanting to sell your house, "So-and-so party SUCKS!" and give me something to chew on. There has been some good discussion here... Stay on track with that. Stick with the real issue and purpose of this discussion: What political party are you voting for and WHY? Politically speaking.

Michael Ignatieff doesn't sit right with me. He brings nothing to the table; has no platform (other than his political stances on Afghanistan, Climate Change, and Quebec as a nation... I think? Missing something?) and just seems to want to ransack the government. He has some(?) experience in international affairs, but other than that he has an "opinion" and "writes"...But that isn't enough for me. No contributions to the House. No contributions and suggestions to the budget... In fact he declared he was not going to support it before it was even tabled. Does anyone else not see this? I don't know, am I wrong to think that I need something a little more tangible then that? And I watched him on live TV, just hours after the budget came out, try and take credit for some of the things Layton managed to get into the budget. Really? Are you going to go there? I am glad the interviewer called him out on that one. It's like saying I should run for Prime Minister because a bunch of people think I said a few intelligent things.

Layton is a fighter. I like that about him. Beyond his personal life, he really goes for it politically. He has accomplished a lot... However... I just feel like he is a little bit too left for me. There is something to be said for the corporations that create the jobs in the country, who deserve more support then I think he likes. Which brings me to...

Ohhhh Harper dear. I think he got what he deserved. He thinks he can do what he wants, and not answer to anyone, and his people/handlers are very much the same. Would I like to see him get a majority? Oh GAWD no. I would fear for the fundamental morals of this country. However, do I think he is the best man for the job, considering the other options? Absolutely. The budget was sound. In a minority setting, other than the obvious gaffs, he seems to be doing OK. Again... considering the other options.

I think part of it comes down to voting for the best person in your riding. Honestly, regardless of the party. Read the platforms, read what they want to do for YOU and vote accordingly. If we all did that as opposed to partisan voting, I believe the candidates would really start working for the bacon and people like Flaherty would not wake up on a morning like today and think, "wow, what a great 36 day vacation I have to look forward to before being elected back to parliament." There should be no gimmes. Blah, I hate being idealistic like that but I really wished people would vote like that. And just as an example (bear with me here, almost done!!) in old my riding, it is currently a conservative member. Before that was a liberal member. Before that was a PQiste. Want to know when things got done?? When the PQiste was in (think HWY 50 in the 80's). Conservatives and Liberal MPs did nothing for our region. Where I am now we have a Bloc rep. And honestly, I might even think of voting for him. WHY? Because he brings the most to the table for me and the development of my region. If I voted for a backbencher Liberal/Conservative, I don't believe as much would happen (if history would repeat itself).

KK done. tongueold

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 26 Mar 2011 4:05 PM
 13 Mar 2011
Red Scarf
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This is a neat site to see what MPs have actually done. I'm quite impressed with what it says about my MP.

http://howdtheyvote.ca/

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 26 Mar 2011 4:20 PM
 31 Jul 2006
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Actually BreeBee, I live in a riding with a Conservative MP and MPP, and I won't lie, I LOVE our town, I love everything about living here, wouldn't move elsewhere, we have relatively low taxes- we're not paying high taxes due to welfare programs like Hamilton, as it has been explained to me.
Our streets don't have major potholes, we have ice rinks, we have mini museums, a provincial park, and people pay an arm and a leg for a house here (not Toronto arm and leg) to live in a fairly safe community!

Now do I subscribe to the Conservative rhetoric, not so much, but I'm not the type of person who also believes in handout's to everyone, but offer a helping hand! And in all honesty there is NO political party that suits me!

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 26 Mar 2011 4:21 PM
 6 Feb 2010
 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
missjess
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Very, very conservative. Too much "open-minded-ness" just leads to anarchy.

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 26 Mar 2011 5:07 PM
 3 Jan 2009
zoobaby
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I think what is often ignored about the debate is that a lot of conservatives aren't necessarily social conservatives. While I identify with the left myself, I don't think it's fair to say all conservatives are narrow minded. A lot of people vote PC because they believe in small government and fiscal conservatism WHILE examining other options for social support besides government. It doesn't necessarily mean they're all women haters and gay bashers and dolphin eaters.

Both sides use extremism to garner support, which I hate. People on the left don't necessarily want criminals taking over the streets, as is so often portrayed, and people on the right aren't neo-fascists. (Well, except the neo-fascists, but they don't count in a discussion like this anyway.)

I personally have no time for the far right, but moderate views don't bother me at all. That said, I wouldn't vote PC, because I fundamentally disagree with some of the more extreme right views held by some party members. But realistically, how much ideological difference is there between a moderate PC and Liberal? Not much.

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 26 Mar 2011 7:03 PM
 8 Apr 2009
 Ontario
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Anonymous472 - This is exactly why I love politics. Some of the things you don't support are exactly the things I do. I love that we all have the freedom to make those choices and that hopefully, which ever way you lean, you don't have to hear "you're stupid" for supporting what you do.

ETA - Thank you for your well thought out reply. (Even though I wasn't the one that asked the question, I do like to read responses and find it interesting where people stand).

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 26 Mar 2011 7:09 PM
 3 Jan 2009
zoobaby
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Anonymous472 - I don't ever vote Conservative, but I just wanted to say that I thought your post was really well thought out.

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 26 Mar 2011 7:15 PM
 28 Jun 2004
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So, there I was writing out my above response and watching CPAC on my pvr. Wouldn't you know that the man himself answered the "Where is the money coming from?"

I have taken the liberty of transcribing it for anyone interested in the answer:


Q: Mr. Ignatieff, corporate tax rates are 16.5% right now, not 18% so what is your plan to carry out your agenda without raising taxes?

A: This government is wasting $30B on an untendered fighter jet* contract; it's spending billions of dollars on prisons; it is giving corporate tax big companies who already have competitive tax rates a break they do not need because taxes are already competitive at 18%. We stick it at 18%, you save $6B, you pay down the deficit, and you make the specific targeted investments in our platform, to help families with the burden of care in the home, and to improve accessibility to post-secondary education, which is the key thing to create jobs, and competivity in our economy and you can do this by spending less than the Harper Government. And that's why you do not raise taxes on ordinary Canadian families and we will not raise taxes on ordinary Canadian families. Thank you.


I encourage everyone to read this once and then go through and read it again. This is increasing corporate taxes to fund Liberal social spending programs and rings all too familiar for those of us who hail from the West and are old enough to remember the 80s.

* I put the asterix after the untendered fighter jet part because I spent over 3 hours reading about these a few nights ago on US & UK sites and I do not believe that these were untendered as claimed. It was something I waffled about with my limited information and now I am absolutely confident knowing the history of this purchase, that these were both tendered and originally signed on for by the LPC.

Thanks for the comments Gir & ZooBaby!

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 26 Mar 2011 10:48 PM
 28 Jun 2004
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@Rangergal88 - I guess I just got confused why municipal affairs were being related to MPs and MPPs. Moreso from ms_matched's post than yours. It does sound like a nice place to live. We pay a fair chunk to live here and are still stuck with crappy roads, poor snow removal (although this year under our newest Mayor has been substantially better)...



If you want to see where you are relating to the current issues and representatives, CBC has a neat Vote Compass. No surprise that my butt is parked firmly right where I thought it'd be.

Vote Compass

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 27 Mar 2011 12:01 AM
 28 Jun 2004
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So organized chartities should take the hit? That's an interesting position. I'd try selling that idea to the charities and see how many of them are in favour of that. Not to mention that a decrease in charitable donations would in turn increase the amount of tax that eg. Telus would pay due to the lower deduction.

I don't know if you work for a corporation but they generally forcast well into the future and take taxes and other relevant expenses into consideration when deciding to expand, downsize, hire, layoff...

And if you don't think these tax breaks, even the measly 1.5% don't have an impact on Canadian businesses, I offer this:

Lloyd St. Amand ran a bus tour of Brant to showcase job loss in the area. He had this awesome photo-op in front of a factory whose sign was being removed. The photo showed the Liberal politicians feeling depressed as a sign was removed from the shut down Crane plant on Henry Street.

Allow me to correct the record, McColeman said. What (Hall-Findlay) actually witnessed was another example of how our government is making Canada the most attractive place for job creators to invest.

The sign removal was in preparation for the new logo of Brant Screen Craft, an expanding local company that purchased the plant last year.

The vice president of Brant Screen Craft circulated a sternly worded e-mail on Friday morning after seeing his companys new logo in the photograph.

(The Liberals) attempt at disparaging the Conservatives...was a disaster, John Paul deBoer wrote. Ironically, we had looked into locating our finishing and distribution facility in Michigan. The corporate tax cuts and programs provided by the Conservative government were the deciding factor to expand in Canada.

The new facility will employ about 50 people.

I would wager a bet that this is not the only company who stayed & expanded because of this.



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 27 Mar 2011 12:59 AM
 10 Dec 2009
zinnia
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That test is awesome. I am closest to the Green Party's views, and (surprise) furthest from the Conservatives.

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 27 Mar 2011 1:16 AM
 28 Jun 2004
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Anonymous472
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I redid the test to see the graph again and just hit "neither agree nor disagree" and " no opinion for the other stuff...the result had me as a Liberal. That made me laugh.

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 27 Mar 2011 2:51 AM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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I have never seen corporate tax cuts increase real social services, fund infrastructure projects, or lead to better defence spending, and for me the argument stands that corporations are paying too few taxes. "Tax free day" for large corporations is too early and not cutting corporate taxes is extremely sensible to me.

I also think the richest Canadians are undertaxed (who earned the average Canadian salary in the first 5 hours of work this year---that's sick; I don't care what you're doing, you're not worth that much more than others) and the threat of them hiding their money out of the country should be countered by good white-collar crime laws. I also think that political donations should be treated the same as charitable donations on personal income taxes but for some reason, no political party seems to support that. wink

I, too, remember the 80s; they were my politically formative years. Mulroney and Divine spent, spent, spent while cutting corporate taxes, leaving my province and my country in massive debt that the Liberals and NDP got to spend their terms slowly digging us out of. I see the current Conservatives making all those exact same mistakes (don't tax and spend), and they are mistakes since the predecessors have already demonstrated that corporate tax cuts cannot lead to a sustainable government budgets or a strong economy.

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 27 Mar 2011 6:11 AM
 8 Apr 2009
 Ontario
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The CBC link was interesting, except where they placed the greens. They have them more economically left than the other parties. Unless their platform has changed drastically, that definitely isn't correct. They lean left socially, but lean more to the right fiscally.

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 27 Mar 2011 9:52 AM
 13 Aug 2006
 Calgary, Alberta
cherryblossom
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amberm145 and Bree Bee, thank you for your posts. I've voted Green/Liberal/Conservative in the past, and will most likely vote Conservative again this election. I like to consider myself pretty darn open minded, and I find it quite ignorant to paint all Conservatives as being narrow minded. Gimme a break.

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 27 Mar 2011 12:29 PM
 15 Jul 2010
Happiness
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For me, it's not just about money, taxes and deficits. I have strong views regarding things like gay marriage, abortion rights, and womens rights and they simply don't align with the Cons. At all.

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 27 Mar 2011 12:45 PM
 3 Jan 2009
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I wanted to interject with something that I really struggle with that I'm sure a lot of people on here will relate to.

Anonymous472's arguments are compelling. But I can't bear to vote Conservative because of my fundamental discomfort with social conservatism. I totally agree that money is a HUGE responsibility of the government and it's something we need to weigh very seriously. But I am just so ideologically opposed to social conservatism that any amount of fiscal sense can't counter that.

So even if I'm voting for a party which *may* be less fiscally sound, I am doing so because I have very, very strong objections to other Conservative views. I'm old enough to know to never say never, but this is the reason I'll probably never vote Conservative. I just fundamentally disagree with many of their views (particularly on the farthest right) regarding immigration, abortion, women, and so on.

I'm getting more conservative about the justice system as time goes on, I must admit.

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 27 Mar 2011 1:29 PM
 13 Mar 2011
Red Scarf
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About the current liberal leader, Michael Ignatieff:

Originally Posted By: Anonymous472
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 27 Mar 2011 4:48 PM
 28 Jun 2004
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Oy! So much to respond to! To the other conservatives out there - feel free to respond, it's a little overwhelming when only one person is countering the liberal position. I'm doing my best here but could use a little support!

@DJ - The Debt to GDP ratios during Harper's term:

2006-2007: 36.2%
2007-2008: 33.6%
2008-2009: 29.0%
2009-2010: 34.0%
2010-2011: 35.4% (budgeted); have also read 37% in other documents
2014-2015: projected 31.9%

(perspective: the other G7 countries had an average of 69.7% 2009-2010)

In terms of our deficit, we did see a rise in Government expenditures in 2009/2010. The stimulus was obviously a large contributor, another is the $5.6B transferred to Ontario and BC to help with the transition to HST. I would like to offer more but the Annual Report for 2010-2011 isn't posted yet.

I think you're not hearing a lot of people harping about it because we came out of this relatively unscathed (compared to others). The recession could have been far worse on Canada. A slow reaction would not have benefitted us; it was imparative that the response (and subsequent stimulus) was immediate and of a significant enough amount that it would be effective.

Next topic coming shortly!

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 27 Mar 2011 6:05 PM
 10 Dec 2009
zinnia
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I spent an evening the other night arguing with staunch Conservatives who blamed the new election on the Liberals. It was "the Liberals". The entire opposition, which is NOT just Liberal, stood up against the minority Conservatives.

I felt like stabbing my eyes out. I find that either Conservatives supporters are intelligent and well spoken, like Anonymous472 or they are gobsmackingly blind and refuse to believe anything that is in the media, or anything that Harper may have done. I even had one who said, that they didn't mind Harper making all the rules without anyone else having any say, including the rest of us Canadians because "most of us are dumb and don't have any morals".


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 27 Mar 2011 6:25 PM
 28 Jun 2004
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Anonymous472
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I want to ask 2 questions before I start on social views.

To the people following this:

When you talk about social views, is it important to you that your MP and/or PM believes the same as you OR that he/she does his/her job (voting, bills, funding) in a manner reflective of your beliefs, regardless of his/her beliefs?

I also want to know what specific events (acts not words) would lead you to think the conservatives would not operate in a manner reflective of your views.


Just a side note: Breebree brought up a valid point on page 2 about the discussion in this thread. We are about to get into some heated and controversial subjects so I respectfully ask that we be respectful of others. I have refrained from name-calling, comments on attire/looks, disparaging and inflammatory remarks about a person's beliefs and I would appreciate it if we could move forward in the same manner.

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 27 Mar 2011 7:27 PM
 31 Jul 2006
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Can I ask a possibly stoopid question!

Is the new Conservative Party more right leaning socially than the old one?

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