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 13 Apr 2012 10:38 AM
 3 Mar 2010
 Calgary
MizD
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I watched the debate and actually enjoyed it. Raj Sherman drove me nuts with his one message stance. Brian Mason impressed me, but I just can't vote NDP. Danielle Smith carried herself not too badly, but Alison Redford didn't do a good enough job. It looked like she was glaring at Raj everytime the two of them went at it. I don't know if her eyes were dry, or she was squinting, but it made her look bad.

But, on to policy... I think the PCs have shot themselves in the foot with all of their money flinging promises. The teacher tax credit made me angry, and I'm a teacher. It comes across as a blatant attempt to buy votes (and puts a huge target on the backs of teachers as we enter contract negotiations this summer).

I did like the discussion that erupted about the surplus and Dani-dollars.

Ultimately, I don't think the debate really changed any one's mind. If you were undecided before, you might still be undecided. I'm still voting PC, but then nothing could possibly get me to vote WR, and I still refuse to vote for a Raj Sherman led Liberal party.
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 13 Apr 2012 3:06 PM
 21 Sep 2008
123not_it
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That is so funny I didn't notice the squinting I was listening to the tv but also playing angry birds on my phone!

I hated Raj Sherman's sound bites, the way that apparently the PC party is making gigantic spending promises that didn't appear in the budget, and I disagree with a lot of the Wild Rose's positions. I liked Brian Mason, but I just think in a close election it's a throw away vote. frown

I hate it when there is no clear candidate I want to vote for!

I ended up voting today in special ballot based on who I thought was my best local candidate.
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 13 Apr 2012 5:56 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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I hate the dismissal of genuine concerns as "fear mongering". And it's not just here. In fact, here it's less than in the papers and in the other news sites.

Statements like Smith's where she basically says "oh, some people think that but don't worry, it's not everyone's thoughts" are not helpful and in fact, I think the fully justify my opinion that the Wild Rose plan to decimate anyone or anything that they just don't support.

Their platform is fairly wishy-washy but the bits that I've seen, especially related to the whole notion that government is a big bad guy who has gotten too big for its britches and therefore we need massive cutbacks because somehow that will make Alberta a better place to live, work and play, is genuinely confusing. The logic behind their argument is not sound, at least partially because it is based on something I see as a falsehood: that there is little if any need for government or for government-based services and oversights.

Why do so many Albertans hate government? Why are they so afraid of governmental oversight and services? I will grant anyone that I grew up hating particular politicians and political parties but I never hated government itself. The Conservatives who are running Canada seem to genuinely hate government, the way that some Communists genuinely hate private business.

Why the hate? What traumatic event happened here that has got so many people so angry at and distrustful of government?
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 22 Apr 2012 11:24 AM
 22 Feb 2010
keylime
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Change Alberta has updated their winnable progressive candidate lists. All of the Edmonton constituencies and many of the Calgary ones have winnable Liberal/NDP/or Alberta party candidates! smile

Find Your Winnable Progressive Candidate

I'm still stuck choosing the PC's to avoid the Wildrose. sick
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 22 Apr 2012 12:16 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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I will always remember this election as the one where someone told my guy's brother "I'm not sure who to vote for. I know I don't want the PC's so I'm debating between the NDP and the Wild Rose".

At least a few Alberta voters are really, really desperate for change, I guess, regardless of what the candidates stand for.
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 22 Apr 2012 12:27 PM
 13 Aug 2006
 Calgary, Alberta
cherryblossom
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Wow. Didn't realize the thread had been active lately. Thanks for bumping.

Mangoberry, you bring up some interesting points, and like I said, I don't know much about how things work right now with doctors/conscience rights. Perhaps things will be reversed in legislature though, since so many of us didn't realize pharmacists, etc. had the right to refuse certain drugs based on their own beliefs.

Need some clarification on something... is it true then, that a JP is currently allowed to refuse to marry an inter-racial couple, simply because they don't believe in it?
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 22 Apr 2012 7:48 PM
 13 May 2009
 GTA
muskn
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Bump.
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 22 Apr 2012 9:25 PM
 29 Apr 2007
 The Nuthouse
Sidney
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I am terrified of a WR government.

As for the whole conscience crap, currently health care providers do not need to provide a service they do not feel aligns with their morals. However, they do need to refer you to someone with ready access that will.

So, to the PP that said the pharmacist wouldn't order in your IUD, you could have reported them to the College. Not because they refused, that's fine, but they did not make a reasonable attempt to find you a provider that would get you that service in a reasonable time.

Honestly, that ticks me right off when I hear stuff like that. The whole premise is garbage. And the practice of not getting you someone else is borderline criminal.
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 23 Apr 2012 11:00 AM
 24 Jan 2005
 Calgary
tojules
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11,202
Another not voting for the WR here. After someone of the statements I read on the weekend "burning lake of fire" for the gay crowd...another one spouting that "being white" is his advantage in the race as he can talk to everyone. Seriously?! And both of these guys are pastors?? Only 18 of the 87 candidates have political experience, newbies are great...but do we want nothing but?? I think my favourite thing was the statement about their personal views not being party views. If you don't believe what you're a part of...how can you support it. How can I support you? How do I know what you REALLY stand for? Are you just going to say what you need to and then turn coat the minute you're in to what you really believe?

I thought I was supposed to vote for someone that represents my personal views? I was all ready for change, but considering the options...I'm ok with the same old lame old.

The more I read and educate myself on all the parties, the more I think a monkey flinging poo might do better representing me. tongueold
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 23 Apr 2012 12:27 PM
 2 Oct 2008
Allure
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I'm still undecided in my vote.

I know it won't go to PC.
That was solidified with the return of Gary Mar.

I'm on the fence with WR. There doesn't really seem to be a good option, i think.
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 23 Apr 2012 2:14 PM
 3 Mar 2010
 Calgary
MizD
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The fact that Danielle Smith didn't denounce the comments about homosexuals burning in a lake of eternal fire and the comment about Caucasians having the advantage makes me livid. She went so far as to basically shrug it off under the cover of freedom of religion. Is she SERIOUSLY saying intolerance is okay if it is part of your religious beliefs? Not in my Alberta, thank you. We are not a bunch of intolerant red necks, but the perception coming out of WR is that we are.

I'm concerned about the sheer lack of experience with the WR if they form the government. I don't think being a part of a dysfunctional school board is enough experience for Smith to be Premier. Who on earth would fill the cabinet positions?

As soon as DH gets home we are going to vote today. I'm going to be glued to my tv as soon as the polls close. I think, unfortunately, it will be a WR majority, but I can hope for a PC govt. I'd be okay with a PC minority even.
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 23 Apr 2012 8:48 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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I voted!

While deciding last night, I was surprised to discover that the local Wild Rose candidate doesn't have his own website (twitter or nothing, baby!), the local PC candidate (incumbent) made over 10 grammatical errors in the two paragraphs he had (it made it impossible to comprehend his blurb and it convinced me that he thinks he's got the job in the bag because he isn't even trying), the Liberal candidate had an OK site but nothing special, the Alberta Party candidate did a great job telling me about himself (he's a swimmer and former swim coach, and that gets him bonus points for me because I really want a new pool here), and the NDP really go all-out on their candidates. I know exactly where she stands on everything big, even if I don't agree with it all, and where the party stands on each thing, as well as lots about her as a person.

We'll see how things turn out tonight now! Fingers crossed for something truly surprising.
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 23 Apr 2012 11:01 PM
 25 Oct 2007
 Alberta
samoreo
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Holy shiskabob, Global is projecting a PC majority!! Crazy!
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 23 Apr 2012 11:04 PM
 22 Apr 2008
 Edmonton, AB
sailtothemoon
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Here's a great site to check out the results...

http://abvoteresults.mastermaq.ca
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 23 Apr 2012 11:04 PM
 22 Apr 2008
 Edmonton, AB
sailtothemoon
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Crazy indeed! Raj may lose his seat!
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 23 Apr 2012 11:12 PM
 4 Feb 2007
 Calgary, AB
CMG
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PCs have a majority
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 23 Apr 2012 11:18 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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I'm curious about that, too, samoreo. It seemed really busy at my workplace, which I think is a really good thing.
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 23 Apr 2012 11:21 PM
 2 Apr 2005
cake
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I can't believe how relieved I am by a PC majority.
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 23 Apr 2012 11:34 PM
 18 Jul 2006
Dazed
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Samoreo, I hope you don't work in the transmission lines industry because I still hope that gets taken apart, even with a PC government. It's the only thing that WR wanted that I fully agreed with (mostly because I hate having to pay for things that enable companies to make more money---the company can cover the costs to sell electricity to the States themselves if they think it's that worthwhile).

Moving on from that, the CBC reporters are hilarious---they keep poking all the candidates they talk to, and I love that one of the Wild Rose guys got a jab in back. Definitely the most entertaining coverage I've seen tonight. How about you guys?
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 24 Apr 2012 12:47 AM
 21 Nov 2006
 Sherwood Park, AB
LoveSweetLove
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So happy!

I saw that voter turn out was still only around 45%. I was surprised by that. I thought it would be much higher.
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 24 Apr 2012 1:20 AM
 2 Apr 2005
cake
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45% is only the vote count of eligible voters so far, I believe.
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 24 Apr 2012 10:17 AM
 24 Jan 2005
 Calgary
tojules
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11,202
When we went to our voting station last night, there was barely anybody there...volunteers outnumbered the people voting. Last election, we waited almost 45 minutes to vote...this one, we breezed through the doors.
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 30 Apr 2012
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